A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. Oh not to mention Sccy has great I own a SCCY CPX-2 personally and it has been a flawless gun. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. A bunch. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. Stainless steel through out the gun. Nicer than the price would indicate. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. Mild. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. Shoot to make the thug dead. 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . I used to have one. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Totally agree. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. If you actually carry a gun in your pocket, even in a pocket holster, its gonna get dirty. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. Bottom line: you can do much better. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). But, in real life event, the trigger want matter. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Everything they make are just wrought with problems. For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. Anyone have the Bersa .380. Its pretty clear why. Diamondback has been plagued by trouble. I love the Pico. The gun design has never worked well . Cant say LCP is much better than any of these above, but it has been reliable. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. Actually bought a second one. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. But if ultimate concealment is the need, then just accept that it will need to be .380. Horrible, awful trigger. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. Aside from the problems others have mentioned, the thing is slippery as hell. Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. Quick Summary: Our Top Picks For 5 Best .380 Pistols in 2022 1. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. You can buy 1911s now. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. The one I had was utter shit. Three weeks before it was even released. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. Great gun otherwise. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. check the ammo?? Note to self, Get to the range! How many times are there accidental discharges from soft triggers? The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. It is light and works. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Maybe something like this? Plus, the Picos 9mm cousin, the Nano, rates well above average. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. You really missed this one. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. Go to Genitron and compare.And very little muzzle flip. How do they perform? Or the Kahr in there? the fact you just dont like it? People cant make crap up in their comments? There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. No problem with the SCCY at all. These are not military combat weapons. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. We indicate sponsored content as such. Its that bad. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. No issues to complain about. I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. It went on to launch a revolution of micro .380 handguns. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. Take down the Pico. I dont know if I should believe anything guns3x has to say, he is clearly insane. We both agreed, the TCP trigger was superior to the LCP. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. Both the front and rear sights are black which can make it difficult to see them if you are aiming against a dark background. I love my CPX-1. One now has over 4,000 rounds of flawless ammo down range the other now over 1500 and have never broken a firing pin. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. Maybe if there was an () in theremaybe that might work like Tpanga or Gnai or some such name. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? Any kind of ammo. They still fall back to the limp wrist and ammo excuses. 400 rounds! Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. OMG! Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. The CM9 is a great gun. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. They are well known for their % of guns that have failure rates compared to the ones that dont. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. I have a SCCY too. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. No aluminum. Theyve reportedly improved it in newer model LCPs. So there. More power to him I say. I just dont see the silent u in that. either love or hate. i cant effectively describe the feel of the action; except to say it was similar to dragging a cinder block up a gravel hill. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. Since I dont know whether or not your going to use it for EDC, I will recommend one full size and one small one which i think are the 2 best IMO. Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. 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