Mr. PREYER - It was your conclusion from that talk that some of these people might have knowledge that he was a CIA agent rather than that they were speculating about it? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why not? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And you have had access to the cash disbursement files at XXXXXXXXXXXXX Station? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Usually I threw them away at the end of the day or once in a while I would put it in -- I had a little folder where I kept personal things and it is possible I could have out it in there, but certainly it would have bee destroyed when I left. Reminder warnings were given on an individual or a small group basis. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. Mr. WILCOTT - -- to the Miami Station. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. One man had blonde or light-brown hair, wore a white shirt, and was armed with a rifle. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And the first time you alleged in public this allegation was in 1968? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I take it, from your testimony, that in November of 1963, you were stationed in XXXXXXXXXXXXX Station, is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - Did you vote for President Kennedy? On many occasions he had conversations with CIA personnel concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's employment as a CIA agent. Mr. PREYER - And have you made that available to us? There were more people than that that believed it, and six people with any degree of certainty that, you know, I felt from what they were saying that they either had some kind of substantial knowledge, or they had talked to somebody who had some knowledge. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it is your testimony that, once you left the XXXXXXXX station, people, both at headquarters, in Langley, and at the Miami Station, made references to Oswald being an agent, is that correct? It was just a three-ring binder, and we would list down the advances by cryptonym and the amounts and then reconcile that with the daily disbursements. It was not until 1999 that I located and spoke with Leslie Thompson, one of the original members. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many months after the assassination was this? Mr. SAWYER - How long were you associated with that? Assassinations, The subcommittee met at 10:20 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2344 of the Rayburn Office Building, the Honorable Richard Preyer (Chairman of the subcommittee), presiding. Enclosing the back area is a high, chain-link fence with coils of barbed wire on top. Mr. CORNWELL - Had you done anything or said anything engaged in any activity which became of concern to them? Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And are you saying then that you attempted to investigate this allegation? Mr. DODD - Talking about hours afterwards or a day afterwards? Mr. WILCOTT - When I first started speaking, both my wife and I discussed it and we felt that we should be speaking out about not only Oswald but some other things. Mr. WILCOTT - This was SNIC, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee before they became a black power group Mae Brussell showed copies of this document to the editors of Globe. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, they were such incidents as the FBI agent that was working with a group -- and this was an established fact that this person was an FBI agent and that he wa working with the group that I was working with an antiwar group and, to my mind, there is a very great likelihood that this person was there to neutralize me, as the CIA term went. James B. Wilcott was a CIA accountant who disbursed CIA station funds in Tokyo, Japan. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Destroyed or changed. Mr. WILCOTT - Not publicly. Considering the noise of gun blasts and the uproar going on outside, it is odd that Oswald continued to be unconcerned. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people in the CIA? Why would anyone share the information that Oswald was an agent with you, Mr. Wilcott? We will. Mr. WILCOTT - I can't remember the exact persons. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you have any basis for thinking that their security was poor? Since the CIA has the capability of engineering car crashes to look like accidents, Harriss name should be added to the list of mysterious deaths, along with Warren Commission witness Lee Bowers, who died when his car ran off the road and ran into a freeway abutment. I am a reporter there. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, he mentioned the cryptonym specifically under which the money was drawn. On October 5, 1986, Elsie Wilcott died of cancer. Mr. WILCOTT - Not really files; it was my book. Please publish modules in offcanvas position. There is an interesting paradox about this issue. Mr. WILCOTT - Certainly, from May of 1957 to January of 1960, I was in the pre-fab building on the Potomac in finance. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, it was my understanding that Lee Harvey Oswald was an employee of the agency and was an agent, of the agency. You may have noticed that at the end of my letter to Alternative Views I carbon-copied to my will. It was intended as a jab at myself lest I get too full of myself rereading it 50 years from now. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Answer "yes" or "no" for the recorder. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Is the answer to that "yes"? Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. However, if you received this information two or three months after the assassination, at a time that Oswald was already dead and had been dead for two or three months, what purpose would have been served by checking records that were only 30 days old? Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. That would have put it into 1964? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, from May of 1957 to January of 1960 - Mr. GOLDSMITH - And you testified without any reservation? Mr. WILCOTT - I heard references to it the day after, the assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you prepare such a list? Shelley told Glaze that he himself was arrested for the assassination. Something went wrong. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you remember which of these individuals if any, made the specific allegation or reference that Oswald was an agent? Mr. WILCOTT - It was stated as a fact -- Oswald or the Oswald project. From about January of 1960 to about June of 1960, I was transferred to Finance Field Payroll, also, in this same building, on the Potomac. She & her husband left Dallas shortly afterward. This was all cash payments and record keeping for the station. He kept his pocket calendars from his years of employment, and he noted when the grocery company moved out of the building to a new facility in another part of Dallas. Its also includes links to many hours of online videos you can watch on the evidence covered. Mr. WILCOTT - Gordon Finch. However, while visiting the vacant building in 1983, Hurt saw seven large wooden boxes on the sixth floor, left behind by the TSBD when it moved to a new location in 1970. It doesn't have every one. Mr. SAWYER - What would they say? This employee said that fellow employees were subjected to similar job interviews by government agents. Mr. CORNWELL - In the conversations you had with other CIA employees, the six or seven persons who purported to have good information about the use of Oswald as an agent, did any of those people say anything to you which suggested that the CIA had some role in the assassination of President Kennedy? Shelleys claim that he was an intelligence officer would make sense if, as an ROTC lieutenant, he received intelligence training and perhaps even given some assignments in counterespionage. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. I had been involved at one point with a group civil rights group, and they had investigated it and said that there was no wrongdoing on my part as far a this association with the civil rights group. He saw two white men sitting by the stairs. It was more of a casual kind of thing, to my way of thinking. I think we ought to state that the record shows that Mr. Sawyer is a member of the Kennedy Subcommitte Preyer. CIA might handled any projects involving Oswald and for what purpose they might have used Oswald? heard it, that was not the first occasion on which you had seen it or heard it? During a phone conversation, he told me that he had a letter that mentioned Shelley joining the CIA. It has been directed to the Deputy Chief Counsel in charge of the investigation for his review. Mr. DODD - And the information given you occurred sometime three months after the actual assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what is the reason for that? Mr. CORNWELL - At several points in your testimony you have stated there were six or seven persons, and on each occasion you raised the extent of their knowledge as "knew" or "believed." Which he was allegedly working for. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Investigations of the CIA in the 1960s and 1970s shows that the agency had embedded agents in a wide variety of organizations and institutions, including labor unions, airlines, college student associations, foundations, law firms, banks, savings and loans, investment firms, travel agencies, police departments, post offices, publishing companies, newspapers, call girl services, and mental health institutions. Mr. WILCOTT - It is a little bit east of Oakland, California. The November 14, 1961 date came from Leon, Sexton branch manager in Dallas from 1961 to 1964. Mr. WILCOTT - George Breen was a person in Registry, who was my closest friend while I was in XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. Learn more. Mr. PREYER - So that in XXXX, you indicated, six or seven people talked to you and were, as I understood it, rather definite about the Oswald connection? Do you believe that there was such a reference to Oswald? After completing the questionnaire, the two F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Fritz was on the sixth floor examining the scene when Truly told him of this. I next called John Peets, the manager of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. "It is inconceivable that a secret intelligence arm of the government has to comply with all the overt orders of the government." - CIA CounterIntelligence head James Angleton . Afterwards, she, her husband, and their child quickly disappeared. Apart from the one officer who said to you that you had paid monies with respect to Oswald's cryptonym, what were the other six or seven persons' purported connection with Oswald and the Agency's relation to him. This man said that a large wooden box, 36 x 48 x 60 inches, was used to import arms into the building, one with a false bottom. Your interest in the work of our Committee is appreciated. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Only of Case Officers. That he continued to serve in a military, or semi-military, capacity at the same time he was working for a schoolbook company is indicated by his obituary, which said he was a veteran of World War II. Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Mr. WILCOTT - My wife and I came to believe that what CIA was doing couldn't be reconciled to basic principles of democracy or basic principles of humanism. One of said employees, her husband, and child, disappeared without a trace a few hours after granting me an interview. My actions were less courageous than they were the result of being nave. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, for a limited period. Mr. WILCOTT - I doubt it, sir. Mr. PREYER - Thank you very much and we appreciate you and Mr. Schaap being with us today, and the hearing will stand in recess. So, when the Case Officer made reference to a cryptonym, you didn't know whether the cryptonym referred to Oswald specifically or to a project in which Oswald had been involved is that correct? Mr. DODD - In. (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, actually even prior to the Kennedy, assassination, my wife and I both became disturbed about the stories that we kept hearing about things, control of newspapers and so on. I will give my card to the Committee. And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. Since then, he has written numerous articles on the subject for various periodicals, including The Fourth Decade, Dealey Plaza Echo, and Probe. In 1992, Congress passed the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act that placed all remaining government documents pertaining to the assassination in a special category and . This was just prior to moving to Langley, in finance, and my duties there were policing accounts, and included auditing of special accounts. As we shall see, this might have been designed to conceal the fact that some people working there were being harassed and bullied. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I was on security duty, and on security duty, agents were coming in and out of the station, and I pulled a lot of security duty, three and four nights right in a row, and pulled as much as 24 hours on weekends, and an agent would come back from meeting with somebody and he would be waiting for his wife to pick him up or would be waiting for a call from one of the indigenous agents that he was running and a lot of times conversations would be talked. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What were these people's names? Mr. GOLDSMITH - And your testimony has been truthful and candid? Mr. WILCOTT - No. He asked that a copy of the letter be sent to his homenot to the business addressand after he read it, he would check into it. My efforts to follow up on the leads suggested by Harris were initially unsuccessful. Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. Mr. WILCOTT - The principal reason. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true, sir. Behind the building are five loading docks and an asphalt lot extensive enough to accommodate a number of trucks of any given size. I remember hearing about some CIA people who had somehow helped the right-wing Minute Men in Texas to get arms, originally intended for the invasion. Among the Dallas individuals and companies engaged in supplying arms to Cuban exiles and the Minute Men might have been the ones occupying the building at 411 Elm Street. Mr. DODD - And this would have been, now, shortly after the assassination? (National Archives, RG 272) No other event of the last 75 . The letters themselves came to me from Larry Ray Harris, a prominent researcher of the Kennedy assassination, who knew a lot about the shooting of Officer Tippit and was featured in the British television documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy. Two retired Sexton officials told me that they moved out of the building on November 14, 1961, and that it remained vacant for at least a year. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, with the Agency, yes, sir. Spaulding Jones, former branch manager of MacMillan, said they moved in around 1957 or 1958. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you go back to look at the book? or C.I.A. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Referring to that list, would you tell the Committee where you were stationed during your period with the CIA? I am sorry. Mr. CORNWELL - Did they request that you leave? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you bring your allegation to the attention of the Warren Commission? [12] Wilcotts 3/22/78 HSCA deposition, pp. Mr. CORNWELL - All you can recall is that, when you. Why this information would.come out to a CIA station XXXXXXX rather than some other part of the world is, I assume, because Oswald was trained in Japan, according to your belief. Mr. CORNWELL - What did they say along those lines? I found it very, very difficult to talk about these things that I think ought to be talked about, very difficult. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I am not sure I am following, then, what specifically you did check. Mr. WILCOTT - I do. The stark contrast in the quality of scholarship between the two books was one factor convincing him that there was a huge conspiracy behind the assassination. Mr. SAWYER - Who told this to the community development, people? Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How do you spell XXXXXXXXXX last name? [19] Immediately after Adams and Styles went out the back door, Officer Marion Baker came in through the front door and met Roy Truly. Mr. PREYER - The Committee will resume. While working as a journalist in Dallas, Tx. If it is true that Shelley was affiliated in some way with CIA or U.S. intelligence, that would be a disturbing and potentially significant development.[10]. As Rose points out, this is a bit odd also, since most of the building witnesses were taken to the sheriffs office, which was much closer to the TSBD than police headquarters. Mr. CORNWELL - What routinely was done with such note pads? His father died on November 2, 1990. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, assuming that Oswald had been employed as an agent by the CIA, would there have been a reference to that fact in the CIA's cash disbursement file? I will ask if you will stand and be sworn. Unknown adversaries tormented Cason so much at his home on Druid Lane, that he was forced to relocate to another part of the city. Dave -- I can't remember his last name, Deputy Chief of the China Branch; and then a person whose last name was XXXXXXXXX in the XXXXXXXXX Branch. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. If you have something -- There was talk about it going on at the station, and several months following at the station. He had keen interests in history and weather, and much of his writing related to these. That is what we are attempting to accomplish, which is quite a big order. Mr. DODD - Am I to believe by that that you were not aware at the time you made the disbursement that it was, in fact, an Oswald project? Told to report to base by the tower. They appear to be members of the security staff described by Joe Bergin, Jr. Glazes letters add a further detail that they were members of the FBI. And perhaps even having people inside the TSBD as assets. Mr. CORNWELL - That is, that subject matter, your statement on the Oswald agency matter, be printed or otherwise publicized in a news publication, radio or TV or anything like that on any other occasion? They constructed a new building in the northwest part of Dallas, which both companies shared. Mr. WILCOTT - That was late '68 or perhaps early 1969. Perhaps that is why I was so unprepared during that brief step into the looking glass.. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. He was traveling from his mothers house in Ohio to Georgia. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. All seven boxes had the names of schoolbook publishers stamped on them. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, it is. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I am sorry -- if Oswald was what? Other people who worked at the book depository suffered as well. Mr. WILCOTT - Not to my knowledge. This we concluded from putting various pieces of information together. This was making payments and keeping pay records. We think our readers would be interested in reading his evidence./p>, (Click here to open the document in another page.). This fear casting a shadow over the lives of former employees was also directed against journalists seeking to lift the veil of secrecy. Larry Watanabi, XXXXXX Branch, Senior Case Officer; and XXXXXXXXXXX, deep commercial cover agent. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. Mr. WILCOTT - My wife and I both left the CIA because we became convinced that what CIA was doing couldn't be reconciled to basic principles of democracy or basic principles of humanism. Three of the seven boxes appear in a photograph in his book. Adams said, I believe the President has been shot. Neither Shelley nor Lovelady said anything in reply. Mr. WILCOTT - I may have, sir, and I can't remember. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Upon your memory and the list that your brought with you today, will you tell the Committee the names of the CIA Case Officers who you remember working XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? Mr. WILCOTT - Particularly George Breen and XXXXXXXXX to a lesser extent. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. . You mentioned the day after the assassination you talked to someone at the station about it. (SIG) in CIA Counterintelligence held a 201 file on Oswald in the three years prior to JFK's assassination. Mr. CORNWELL - Is there any chance that that record stil exists? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, you indicated that after receiving this information concerning Oswald's cryptonym, you went back to check some files, is that correct? There was a lot of excitement going on at the station after the Kennedy assassination. It was only my personal Mr. WILCOTT - I don't understand. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY, and thereafter went home. Mr. PREYER - I believe you have written an article about this, an unpublished article. Wilcott swore in a secret session At the end of the hallway to his right was another door. As a CIA employee, Wilcott stated under oath that many people told him that Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of the CIA after the assassination had occurred. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What is the basis for that opinion? Anyone e1se? [5] Interviews of Ted Leon and Thomas H. Butler. Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. At the end of. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [6] They held a big meeting during which they warned everyone not to discuss the assassination with outsiders. [6] Interviews of Joe Bergin, Jr. February 12 and 26, 1994 and August 7, 1999. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I understand. He is about to publish his book and, as you can understand, friendship and loyalty make me reluctant to discuss this matter with anyone else. Supposedly, he fell asleep at the wheel, or committed suicide, when he rammed into the back of a semi-truck. In this area were numerous cardboard boxes, four feet square by five feet high. When Joe entered the building, he took a recently installed passenger elevator to the fourth floor. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. Truly notified Police Captain Will Fritz, who immediately thought that it was "important to hold that man.[29] What makes this even more interesting is the following new information. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, George Breen, again, after we came back from XXXXXXXX, for instance, XXXXXXXX was a person that I knew before I had gone to XXXXXX Station, and I met with him, and I had dinner at his house with his wife and my wife. Feel free to use any part of it as you please. Mr. DODD - You may have covered this as well, Mr. Chairman, and, if you have, I will drop the question. Jack Cason, the TSBD president, was a stocky, robust man before the assassination. Butler took over as branch manager after Leon transferred to Los Angeles. The incident occurred in about 1969. All I remember is that her husband was previously a member of the musical group The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. She didnt show up for work the next day and didnt pick up her final paycheck. The 1960 directory lists him as a department manager for the Texas School Book Depository, living in a house at 126 Tatum Avenue. Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Are you saying, then, that the cash disbursement files as a matter of routine would be periodically destoryed? Mr. SAWYER - Who is the public safety commissioner? I was scared until the Carter Administration. 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